tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post7638072231194682558..comments2023-11-02T03:56:06.817-04:00Comments on FeinsteinOnTheBrink: No innocents in the story of the ex-agent paying college football players; Prediction on Goodell’s outcome of Favre investigationJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10418812412651310398noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-71836291096693817982010-10-14T23:40:54.028-04:002010-10-14T23:40:54.028-04:00Question: Why even mention Tiger or Wilbon at all?...Question: Why even mention Tiger or Wilbon at all? Are you able to discuss a particular athlete (Favre, Duval) without in some way comparing said athlete to Woods?<br /><br />John hates Tiger, but can't seem to stop talking about him.<br /><br />By the way, there is no competition. Favre and Woods are both terrible husbands and fathers. Let's leave it at that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-66991135572391485142010-10-14T20:20:18.461-04:002010-10-14T20:20:18.461-04:00"....If he did this, he’s a boor and he’s stu..."....If he did this, he’s a boor and he’s stupid. That said, I don’t think it quite makes him Tiger Woods. Or is that my anti-Tiger bias?" John, you REALLY can't be serious..HAHA, see this is the risk you run when you allow your anti-Tiger bias to rule common sense. Again, what Tiger did was immoral, but not illegal. He cheated on his wife (over and over again) but he didn't break any laws. What Favre is "alleged" to have done is pretty much sexual harassment. How you call that "boorish" and stupid is really beyond me! At least Wilbon has made it clear over and over again that a man's personal problems is none of his business (unless it's proven to be sexual harassment). At least, he's been pretty consistent with his stance which is much more than I can say for you. Seriously, would you still think it's boorish if that was your daughter or wife that "allegedly" got pictures of Favre's "junk" on their phone?? Favre has gotten a pass from the media (especially the likes of Peter King) for years and I will be the first to say let's reserve judgment until it's proven that he did something wrong but please, do NOT compare this to what Tiger did. Understand that this is about sexual harassment, first and foremost...nothing else.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07143558743410678300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-10555159376580530262010-10-13T23:32:28.018-04:002010-10-13T23:32:28.018-04:00I tend to lean in everyone's direction on the ...I tend to lean in everyone's direction on the the Favre vs Tiger issue. I think what Wilbon, and everyone who discusses why Favre isn't getting the attention that Tiger got is that we've already seen Favre's bad side - his wife has written about his infidelity, he's been to rehab (on his own, not league orders) and he has been ripped endlessly for 2-3 years on his whimsical will he or won't he play saga. Compare that with Tiger's completely squeaky clean image prior to seeing it go across the bottom line on ESPN 'Tiger Woods in serious car accident' or whatever it was, that jump started the entire saga. THAT is what the difference is - along with the theory that his wife beat him with a golf club.<br /><br />And on the agent paying player issue, Gordon jarred my memory to what always lingers when the issue of paying college kids a stipend, or God forbid a salary. While Gordon says that schools are making a killing on these kids, I sorta disagree. There isn't much profit in the athletic departments. Who is making a killing off the players? The coaches....what are there, 40-50 coaches making $1m+ a year now? And the top guys make $3-$5m? Its amazing to me that the players don't revolt against THAT -- Saban and others are truly pimping their 'kids' for more money than anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-1069730081518759532010-10-13T23:22:18.581-04:002010-10-13T23:22:18.581-04:00Mr. Feinstein,
This was fantastic, as usual, exce...Mr. Feinstein,<br /><br />This was fantastic, as usual, except that I agree with the Tiger/Favre sentiment(not yours--the sentiment in the comments). Tiger pulled a fast one on the American people, in a way, and what he did was reprehensible. (Obviously, he pulled a fast one on his wife too.) But there was no evidence of coercion. In Favre's case, fortunately the coercion didn't work, but it sure as heck was lurking. And that's why sexual harassment laws exist.<br /><br />On a Luchs-related note: I'm not sure if you've written about this before, but there is probably no better person to do so: what do you think about paying college athletes? <br /><br />I don't know what the right answer looks like, but I sure don't think it looks like the current mess.<br /><br />JohnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-34437326230526215732010-10-13T15:28:38.376-04:002010-10-13T15:28:38.376-04:00Lets see, college players taking money. Not exactl...Lets see, college players taking money. Not exactly a revelation. Next your going to tell me water is wet , the sky is blue and politicians lie.<br /><br />It's past time when something needs to be done for the "student athletes". These kids ceased being students a long time ago. All the one and dones' don't even have to go to class in order to remain eligible. And the BCS and NCAA basketball "empty suits" can stop reminding everyone that these kids get a $200,000 education for free. A. they have little time to go to class and B as soon as they leave the scholarship is taken away so even if they want to go back they can not. The ones who need to go back often can not afford it.<br /><br />The schools are making huge money from these kids. Over his four years at Florida there were an estimated 1.2 million Tim Tebow jerseys sold at an average of $150 per. Do the math and divide by two for the Gators take. Florida State got busted years ago for the players getting free shoes from foot locker. Meanwhile coach Bobby Bowden had a huge shoe contract with Nike. <br /><br />Coaches can come and go as they please and the players are are bound to sit out a year if they transfer The schools make huge dollars from football and basketball. Michigan makes enough from football to subsidize the entire athletic department..... and then some. Surely something can be done to include the players in the cash grab. <br /><br />If nothing else some small strip end will eliminate the agents, or at least vastly reduce their influence. Besides whose worse the BCS/NCAA or agents?<br /><br />I'm not proposing a free agent system that allows , fill in the blank with a school name , to be the college equivalent of the New York Yankees just a system that one, acknowledges the inequity and two at least tries to eliminate the influence of agents. It's my guess that IMG and companies like Nike and Gatorade don't have clean hands either. <br /><br />Given Mel Kipers reaction one has to wonder how many agents payrolls he's on?Gordonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-86907083207940081992010-10-13T14:41:29.247-04:002010-10-13T14:41:29.247-04:00I'm with Ed on this. Tiger didn't do anyth...I'm with Ed on this. Tiger didn't do anything illegal or anything that would get him fired with a company. What Favre has allegedly done is at the least sexual harassment and maybe even a crime. <br /><br />This is absolutely a racial issue. The press couldn't wait to jump on Tiger Woods for cheating on his wife. And with Favre, it's "boys will be boys". <br /><br />I mean who did Tiger really wrong, beside his wife? No one. I'm not trying to defend Tiger, but it's a little shocking to see the reaction the press has had to both individuals. <br /><br />Meh. You're better than this, John.Justin Mortonhttp://citybusinesschurch.org/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-28823210951521421142010-10-13T12:35:34.003-04:002010-10-13T12:35:34.003-04:00I thought it was interesting that Andy Pollin brou...I thought it was interesting that Andy Pollin brought up the Wichard story last night on his show with Steve Czaban and didn't mention the Mel Kiper angle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-38332933846598849662010-10-13T11:33:34.351-04:002010-10-13T11:33:34.351-04:00In no way do I want to defend Tiger, but while wha...In no way do I want to defend Tiger, but while what he did was immoral and indefensible, what Favre did (allegedly) may have been illegal. It is really upsetting to see talking heads (all men - hmmmm) claim this "isn't that big a deal" or that that they "can't understand why the NFL is even investigating". <br />This isn't about Favre trying to cheat on his wife. This is about a high level Jets employee harassing another employee, with the help of another Jets employee. That is serious. Sorry, but that's a big deal. It shouldn't (necessarily) be about the morality of what he did, but about how illegal what he did is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-980010523927297374.post-87639199583862239662010-10-13T11:26:34.554-04:002010-10-13T11:26:34.554-04:00John: I thoroughly enjoy reading this blog. Than...John: I thoroughly enjoy reading this blog. Thanks,JeffWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03267920554862123357noreply@blogger.com